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#1 WeReWalRuS

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:13 AM

Hello all, I'm new to the forum.

So far, I am really excited about the game, and I can't wait to see whats revealed at E3.

I was hoping to start a topic about the heroes, as in what people already know, and maybe about what we hope to see.

This is what I've been able to glean so far, so help me out if you can



1.) Abomination: the four armed tank

2.) Vexie - Fairy: applies shields to allies and increases their size. Edit: ULT: levitates enemy units, and then drops them

3.) Orcish melee:

4.) Spider queen: spawns smaller units

5.) Centaur archer:

6.) Sapper: carries around a sack and starts fires on enemy units/controls battlefield. Edit: the sapper's liquid can now be ignited by friendly champions as well. As per IanD967

7.) Snake:

8.) Vallamere - Knight:

9.) Assassin: Assassins Creed-esque

10.) Mage:

11.) Elcor/large quadruped with tendrils: As per Ian D967. Edit: known as Mandrake. Snags enemies via a skill shot, has a stun melee, and causes aoe/local damage via thorns over time. ULT: spews forth sap that heals himself and slows the enemy.

12.) Flying insectoid: as per IanD967

13.) Two headed peg leg

14.) Melee Centaur

15.) Demon biped



As you can see, I didn't find out much, but what I've seen shows some promise.

My questions:

1.) There's apparently 10 factions, are the champions faction specific? I doubt it, but just wondering...

2.) What types of champions would you guys like to see? It is fantasy, so you'll have vampires, dwarves, elves, beastmen, etc.

3.) From what I've read, especially concerning the fairy character, they will have 3 abilities. Is this true? It seems to followed the established gaming archetype for Mobas




My hopes:

1.) Heroes themed according to factions, but not necessarily restricted to them unless its for balancing reasons. For example, if there was to be an Undead faction, it could have the obligatory vampire (and its various types), Zombie hero, Liche, Werewolf, etc

2.) A ton of champion lore

3.) Some help from you guys to fill in the relatively large gaps in this post :)


I apologize in advance if this topic was already covered.

Edited by WeReWalRuS, 15 August 2012 - 06:15 PM.


#2 IanD967

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 08:27 AM

Welcome to the forums! :D

Edited this part out on the 20th July 2012, outdated section of this post. Fully updated part at the bottom of this post:


As for the following questions, my replies are in red.

View PostWeReWalRuS, on 09 April 2012 - 07:13 AM, said:

My questions:

1.) There's apparently 10 factions, are the champions faction specific? I doubt it, but just wondering...
I really doubt the champions will be faction specific otherwise they will have one heck of a balancing issue between all the different factions and their own counterparts.

2.) What types of champions would you guys like to see? It is fantasy, so you'll have vampires, dwarves, elves, beastmen, etc.
I really hope to whatever god there is that there will not be goddamn Vampires -.- sick to death with them being in every genre somehow these days.
The rest I can live with though I would LOVE some brand new race that Ironclad creates (like Darkspawn in Dragon Age, Vasari in SoaSE etc though not those I am saying those as examples of brand new races we haven't seen before)

3.) From what I've read, especially concerning the fairy character, they will have 3 abilities. Is this true? It seems to followed the established gaming archetype for Mobas
It would appear so! there was footage recently that shown Champion gameplay and it did show the traditional 4 skill-per-champion (3 standard and 1 ult)

My hopes:

1.) Heroes themed according to factions, but not necessarily restricted to them unless its for balancing reasons. For example, if there was to be an Undead faction, it could have the obligatory vampire (and its various types), Zombie hero, Liche, Werewolf, etc
You already know where I stand with Vampires.. Blood mage? yeah that would be good but no flipping Vampires >.<
Rest of those would be awesome though!

2.) A ton of champion lore
I think that goes without saying ;)

3.) Some help from you guys to fill in the relatively large gaps in this post :)
hope I helped somehow :)


Names within brackets are the players who were playing that Hero/Champion in the gameplay video which shown the following Hero/Champions:-


"Pegleg" zombie-esque guy

Mandrake "Thanatos" (correct me if I am wrong here):
The plant-based “mandrake” hero I played was a tank, who functions similarly to LoL’s Amumu.
- Using mandrake’s skillshot, a good player can snag enemy heroes with a vine, dragging them right into his melee range.
- Then once they’re close he can stun them with a powerful hit and
- use a thorns ability that deals damage over time to anyone standing close to him.
- his ultimate ability, spurting out a pool of sap that rapidly heals him while also slowing enemies in the area.


He worked especially well with characters like the trickster, a fairy-like unit that can grow friendly units and shrink enemies, as well as deal some damage

The fairy (trickster) can
cast "shield bombs"
"enlarge allies into a giant or shrink enemies"
her ultimate "can levitate all units in an area and then slam them down"

Sapper "oodle":
"gigantic fire spell that is great for pushes"
"lay down tar patches"
"Can lay down a patch of Oil to either ignite himself or to bait the enemy team into allowing your teammate to ignite it"

The commander:
Can choose which way he wants to support his team by being more military (more units available to create) or he can focus on "Realm Powers" such as "battle armour" and "heal"

The first Champion/Hero to be officially named is:
Vallamere The Imperial Knight - 20th July 2012

Will update this further when more information is released on each champion

Edited by IanD967, 20 July 2012 - 03:05 PM.


#3 Jeru_Sorrin

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:13 AM

nice answer IanD967, also for the fairy: evidently she rise and drop massive amounts of units on top of what you said as well.

One of my hopes is that Ironclad have the coop play move the lore along. So instead of forever in the present LoL, we will seen progression and have it so others can expirence the story along the way as well.

Also I don't remeber an elcor with tendrils but I thought I saw a bull-equse monster draging chains. Are those one and the same?

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:46 AM

So...12 champions so far.  I wonder how many they plan to launch with. I would imagine it would be significantly higher...given just the faction count.

Thx for the input too.

By the way...is that tentacle creature the same one that can be chosen as an avatar, the vampiric beaver with a triceratops crest?

Edited by WeReWalRuS, 09 April 2012 - 10:49 AM.


#5 Jeru_Sorrin

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 08:31 PM

Actually no, the beaver thing is actually a wild creep as shown in some of the screen shots. The hero that I'm referring to is more of muscular low-slung beast. Visible in the gameplay footage.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:07 AM

I really hope for an undead faction with a vampire hero that doesn't sparkle. I just like undead and necromancy, I'm a big fan of the lore. :)

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:40 PM

Have the Devs given a date when they will start beta testing? I have Sins of a Solar Empire and have been waiting for this one to be released.  :)

Thanks and take care,

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:42 AM

View PostTeal_Blue, on 10 April 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

Have the Devs given a date when they will start beta testing? I have Sins of a Solar Empire and have been waiting for this one to be released.  :)

Thanks and take care,

-T

They havent given an exact date, but I believe they mentioned this summer as a possible beta start period.

On topic:
Seems like there will be some nice heroes in the game, I especially like the spider hybrid concept. Although its probably a squishy char, and I cant play with anything fragile :P

#9 IanD967

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:43 AM

View PostHorneyBull, on 10 April 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

I really hope for an undead faction with a vampire hero that doesn't sparkle. I just like undead and necromancy, I'm a big fan of the lore. :)
I hope for an Undead faction WITHOUT vampires ;p sparkling or not I do not like vampires (blood mages like Vladimir in LoL I do not mind hehe)

View PostTeal_Blue, on 10 April 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

Have the Devs given a date when they will start beta testing? I have Sins of a Solar Empire and have been waiting for this one to be released.  :)

Thanks and take care,

-T

http://www.sinsofada...opic/175-where/

View PostMilkshaker, on 11 April 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

On topic:
Seems like there will be some nice heroes in the game, I especially like the spider hybrid concept. Although its probably a squishy char, and I cant play with anything fragile :P

I think I seen the Spider queen woman thingy-ma-bob having a few "pets" follow her around during some of the gameplay footage.
I hope she wont be squishy but I also don't hope she is a caster/mage type either

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:04 AM

According to Gameinformer, we're gonna have about 25 champs available for beta. I can't wait to see what information leaks in the near future

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:21 AM

So, I don't know why I'm so obsessed about this game, but I figured that I would check out their facebook page, to see if I could find something new. So, I came across this pic, and i wanted you guys to check it out.

Top right hand  corner, I think that it might be a champ played by a bot.

http://www.facebook....&type=3
Mandrake bot? Looks like a turtle/ankylosaur/rammus thing.

In addition, if you take a look at the screens on the left, or right, one can see what appears to be the commander's avatar in addition the ones belonging to the champs. 3 different commanders in these screens.

If you look at this screen...
http://www.gamershel...618028_full.jpg

Hero's on left: Orcish/Barbarian melee, spider queen, fairy, unknown.

Hero's on right: Unknown humanoid/furry, woman portrayed on facebook/perhaps of African-like decent, fairy, uknown: tank barbarian.

Edited by WeReWalRuS, 12 April 2012 - 09:23 AM.


#12 IanD967

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:10 PM

View PostWeReWalRuS, on 12 April 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Top right hand  corner, I think that it might be a champ played by a bot.

http://www.facebook....&type=3
Mandrake bot? Looks like a turtle/ankylosaur/rammus thing.

Yeah the first thing I thought was an Anklyosaur/Rammus type creature. Looks pretty cool though! :D


View PostWeReWalRuS, on 12 April 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

In addition, if you take a look at the screens on the left, or right, one can see what appears to be the commander's avatar in addition the ones belonging to the champs. 3 different commanders in these screens.

If you look at this screen...
http://www.gamershel...618028_full.jpg

Hero's on left: Orcish/Barbarian melee, spider queen, fairy, Rogue/Assassain hero.

Hero's on right: Unknown humanoid/furry, woman portrayed on facebook/perhaps of African-like decent, fairy, uknown: tank barbarian.


The guys on the right side really look interesting! mainly the Doc-looking human with big grey hair and the Drow/Black person below him!
Cannot wait to play this game :D

Also, it is nice to see those rat things in the game :) look a bit odd though being in the middle of the road

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:50 AM

Faction based heros would be amazing, such as a lycanthropic hero, or any kind of themed hero for that matter heh. I would enjoy seeing a character like karsh from LOTR, or a creature made of darkness. I have to agree with Ian about the vampire character idea, as vampires have been overused so much. personally, an undead berserker, like a wraith or ghoul, would be epic =)

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:58 AM

I hope beasts [etc] will be scary.... Not like Cho'Gath in LoL. :)

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:27 PM

View PostHamengeri, on 27 April 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

I hope beasts [etc] will be scary.... Not like Cho'Gath in LoL. :)

He is only scary when he has had a good meal ;)

and Karsh? i've never heard of that character at all in LOTR.
I do agree with you, I would LOVE a wraith or ghoul to actually be a hero instead of some unit this time :D (Does Nocturne count as a wraith/ghoul?)

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:50 PM

Yeah, he does. He's technically an avatar for the nightmares of all life, but he's really a ghost.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:11 PM

Cho is cute :P until he gets his stacks up :blink:.  

I hope they can bring some of the heroes over from LoL.  Not literally of course.  Naturally, heroes can't be similar to LoL in any way.  Outside of being completely unique, a lot can be learned from LoL (The only moba I've played) and clearly has.  I don't know of many other games that have the same free-to-play release platforms but now I'm getting of subject.  

I want a Ninja.  Not a flippin' ninja like Shen.  A ninja that hides in the shadows and decimates opponents.  Big swords.  Double axes.  Now I'm rambling.  GG

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:19 AM

indeed sneaky rogue types would be cool, although i would probably suck when playing them (i tend to charge into enemies anyway). and i really do NOT hope they take their champs from LoL. what ive seen up until now is beautiful and is what has me so excited, all original and stylish.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 11:57 AM

View PostePh-YeW-sEa-KaE, on 30 April 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

I want a Ninja.  Not a flippin' ninja like Shen.  A ninja that hides in the shadows and decimates opponents.  Big swords.  Double axes.  Now I'm rambling.  GG

Akali? ;p double Karma's instead of Katana's or Axes hehe

Wheither or not they draw inspiration from some LoL champs that doesn't mean they will be all the same :)

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 04:35 PM

To reply to a few questions:

Beta is set to launch some time in the summer
25 Champions/Heroes are expected to be released then
10 Commanders are as well




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